The Client Wants 1,000 Custom-Colour Candles but Has Not Paid an Advance — Should I Buy Fragrance Oil, Jars and Custom Materials Before Approval?
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How much is at stake? In the worked order the full material list is ₹2,08,523.00 (₹1,90,163.00 at CSI prices plus ₹18,360.00 of your printed sleeves). Bought with no advance and then cancelled, ₹19,496.00 is lost outright and the rest is stock you carry for months. Had the client chosen an unusual oil and coloured jars, the lost part would be ₹2,09,208.00.
Doesn’t buying early save time? Less than it feels: in the worked plan, buying everything today delivers on day 30; buying after approval and the advance delivers on day 35. Early buying buys 5 days, the material lead time, and nothing else: the colour sample still needs its pour, cure and decision.
What is the minimum advance? Enough to cover the samples and every client-specific line before you buy them: ₹21,832.40 in the worked order. How much more to ask is 6363; the working capital the whole order needs is 6365.
- Straight answer: samples yes, custom no
- The order and the missing advance, as numbers
- The material risk ladder
- The worked exposure: three ways to wait
- What buying early really buys
- Getting from verbal yes to a paid order
- The materials on the ladder
- Map of this cluster: 6361–6380
- Frequently asked questions
The order and the missing advance, as numbers
Your figures, from the title: 1,000 candles, in a custom colour, with no advance paid. The rest is a worked example: the client’s navy brand colour, the clear 200ml Salsa jar filled to a worked 160 g (a 200 ml jar does not hold 200 g of wax; confirm the fill by a weighed test pour), 8% Eucalyptus Spearmint (12.8 g of oil and 147.2 g of wax each, load as a share of total weight) in Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464, Eco C2 wicks, plain corrugated boxes and a printed sleeve from your printer. Fifteen extras (five client samples, five retains, five QC burn candles) and a 4% loss buffer make 1,058 pours. Your quote is ₹450.00 a candle (₹4,50,000.00); the client wants delivery in 35 days.
| Input | Figure | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Candles | 1,000 | your figure (title) |
| Colour | custom (navy, worked) | your figure (title): custom |
| Advance | none yet | your figure (title) |
| Fill, load, oil | 160 g at 8%, Eucalyptus Spearmint | worked example |
| Pours | 1,058 | (1,000 + 15) ÷ 0.96, rounded up |
| Materials | ₹1,90,163.00 CSI + ₹18,360.00 sleeves | CSI prices; sleeves your printer’s |
| Quote and date | ₹4,50,000.00, delivery in 35 days | worked example |
This page is the hub for the cluster on corporate orders, advances and commercial risk. It owns the first question every one of those posts assumes has been answered: what do you buy while the money has not arrived? The map at the end gives one line for each of the nineteen posts that take a part of it further.
The material risk ladder
Sort every line of the BOM by one test: if the client never pays, can you use it, and how soon? That gives five steps. The lower steps can move early; the upper ones wait for paper and money.
| Step | What is in it (worked order) | If the order dies | Buy when |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 · Samples | 100 g oil, 15 g/ml dyes, 10 jars, 2 kg wax, 10 wicks: ₹2,336.40 | spent, but small | now, at your cost or a credited sample fee |
| 2 · Standard reusable stock | wax, wicks, clear jars, plain boxes, care stickers: ₹1,46,783.00 | used in your own range over months (wax about 5.3, jars about 5.4) | only the part your normal sales would use anyway; the rest after a written order |
| 3 · A common oil you already sell | Eucalyptus Spearmint 13.7 kg: ₹42,244.00 | used over about 9.1 months at your rate | after a written order; if you do not sell it, it is step 4 |
| 4 · Client-specific materials | custom-colour dye ₹1,136.00 + printed sleeves ₹18,360.00 | sunk | only after written approval and an advance that covers them |
| 5 · Poured candles in the custom colour | materials plus labour, in this client’s colour | sunk, and labour lost | after approval and advance; never on speculation |
Why step 2 is "only what you would use anyway"
Standard stock is reusable, but reusable is not free. 158 kg of wax at your normal 30 kg a month (a worked rate) is about 5.3 months of stock; 1,080 jars at 200 a month is about 5.4. That is cash on a shelf, and its cost is real (pricing it is 6366). So the rule is not "buy reusable items early"; it is "buy early only the part your normal sales would have bought anyway." The rest waits for the written order. Which materials count as reusable for you, and which are client-specific risk, is classified in detail in 6379.
Why the custom colour is step 4, even though dye is cheap
The two dye bottles for the whole order cost ₹1,136.00. The risk is not the bottle: it is every kilo of wax the dye goes into and every candle poured from it, because a navy candle with a client’s sleeve has one buyer. Dye the wax only after approval and the advance. And check the colour is achievable first: on 7 October 2026 CSI’s Green and Yellow liquid dyes are out of stock, so a brand colour that needs them cannot be mixed from our liquid dyes this week. Ask on WhatsApp before you promise a shade.
The worked exposure: three ways to wait
| Strategy | Cash out before the advance | Sunk if the client walks away | Delivery day |
|---|---|---|---|
| A · Buy everything now | ₹2,08,523.00 | ₹19,496.00 (dye + sleeves) + months of tied-up stock | day 30 |
| B · Samples + standard stock now | ₹1,49,119.40 | ₹2,336.40 (samples) + months of tied-up stock | day 30 if stock covers the order |
| C · Samples only (recommended) | ₹2,336.40 | ₹2,336.40 | day 35 |
| A, if the client had chosen Gilli Mitti and Purple jars | ₹3,23,812.40 | ₹2,09,208.00 | day 30 |
Read the table from the client walking away. Under strategy A you have spent ₹2,08,523.00; ₹19,496.00 of it (the dye in use and the printed sleeves) is lost outright, and ₹1,46,783.00 of standard stock plus ₹42,244.00 of oil sit on your shelf until your own range uses them. Under B the outright loss is only the samples, but over ₹1,49,119.40 of cash is tied up for months. Under C the most you lose is the sample kit, ₹2,336.40. The last row shows why specification matters as much as timing: had the client chosen Gilli Mitti and purple jars, the client-specific part alone would be ₹2,09,208.00.
| Line | Required | Pack rounding | Cost | Leftover | Class |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 | 157,294.98 g | 15 × 10 kg + 5 kg + 3 × 1 kg | ₹80,169.20 | 705 g | reusable |
| Eucalyptus Spearmint | 13,677.82 g | 13 × 1 kg + 500 g + 2 × 100 g | ₹42,244.00 | 22 g | common oil |
| Clear 200ml Salsa jars | 1,080 | 10 × 100 + 50 + 6 × 5 | ₹32,178.60 | 0 | reusable |
| Eco C2 wicks | 1,080 | 1,000 + 50 + 20 + 10 | ₹10,195.20 | 0 | reusable |
| Corrugated Box 11 x 11 x 8 cm | 1,026 | 10 × 100 + 50 | ₹23,541.00 | 24 | reusable |
| Candle Care Stickers Roll (1.5 inch) | 1,000 | 1 × 1,000 | ₹699.00 | 0 | reusable |
| Candle Dye Liquid Blue + Black | 78.65 g at the worked dose | 100 gm + 15 ml | ₹1,136.00 | some | client-specific in use |
| CSI total | ₹1,90,163.00 | ₹190.16 a candle | |||
| Printed sleeves (your printer) | 1,020 | your printer | ₹18,360.00 | client-specific |
The materials are only part of the exposure. Your hours on samples, the printer’s setup charge, and any finished candles also fall on you if the order dies; what happens to the whole investment after a cancellation is 6378.
What buying early really buys
The temptation is the date. So count it. The colour sample round takes 9 days whatever you buy (pour, a 4-day cure, courier, client decision). After approval and the advance, bulk materials take 5 days to arrive (a worked figure; we do not publish dispatch or transit times, so confirm on WhatsApp), production takes 14 days at 80 pours a day, then cure, QC, packing and delivery take 7.
| Step | Buy after advance | Buy everything today |
|---|---|---|
| Colour sample round (pour, cure, courier, decision) | days 0–9 | days 0–9 |
| Bulk materials arrive | days 9–14 | already in, day 5 |
| Production, 1,058 pours at 80 a day | 14 days, to day 28 | 14 days, to day 23 |
| Cure, QC and packing, delivery | 7 days | 7 days |
| Delivery | day 35 | day 30 |
The decision rule, with the settling numbers. Buying everything today saves 5 days and puts ₹2,08,523.00 at risk before the client has paid. Against a 35-day request, the after-advance plan needs approval and the advance by day 9 (Friday 16 October 2026) to deliver on Wednesday 11 November 2026. Put that date in the quote: "delivery 26 days after colour approval and the advance; for delivery by Wednesday 11 November 2026, both by Friday 16 October 2026". If the client cannot pay by then, the date moves, or the scope changes (a first tranche in your standard colour from a proven formula, for instance). What must not move to save those days: the colour approval on a cured candle, the burn test of the coloured candle with its wick, and the cure before QC.
Getting from verbal yes to a paid order
The materials on the ladder
A common oil and an unusual one, the dyes, the clear jar and its coloured twin, and the wax. They are here for their place on the ladder, not ranked on performance; CSI publishes no burn or throw data.
| Size | Price | Per gram | When |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15 g | ₹68.44 | ₹4.56 | |
| 50 g | ₹212.40 | ₹4.25 | |
| 100 g | ₹354.00 | ₹3.54 | sample kit now; 2 more after the PO |
| 500 g | ₹1,652.00 | ₹3.30 | 1 after the PO |
| 1 kg | ₹3,068.00 | ₹3.07 | 13 after the PO |
| Size | Price | Per gram | When |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15 g | ₹140.00 | ₹9.33 | |
| 50 g | ₹448.00 | ₹8.96 | |
| 100 g | ₹896.00 | ₹8.96 | sample only, unless chosen |
| 500 g | ₹4,480.00 | ₹8.96 | |
| 1 kg | ₹8,960.00 | ₹8.96 |
| Pack | Price | When |
|---|---|---|
| Blue 15 gm | ₹236.00 | sample kit now |
| Blue 50 gm | ₹472.00 | |
| Blue 100 gm | ₹900.00 | after approval + advance |
| Black 15 ml | ₹236.00 | sample kit now; reused in bulk |
| Black 50 ml | ₹472.00 |
| Pack | Price | Per jar | When |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5 Pcs | ₹200.60 | ₹40.12 | 2 for samples; 6 in bulk |
| 50 Pcs | ₹1,475.00 | ₹29.50 | 1 in bulk |
| 100 Pcs | ₹2,950.00 | ₹29.50 | 10 in bulk |
| Pack | Price | Per jar | When |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pack of 5 | ₹310.00 | ₹62.00 | sample |
| Pack of 50 | ₹3,100.00 | ₹62.00 | |
| Pack of 100 | ₹6,200.00 | ₹62.00 | only after an advance covering them |
| Size | Price | Per kg | When |
|---|---|---|---|
| 500 g | ₹260.00 | ₹520.00 | |
| 1 kg | ₹507.40 | ₹507.40 | 2 for samples; 3 in bulk |
| 5 kg | ₹2,537.00 | ₹507.40 | 1 in bulk |
| 10 kg | ₹5,074.00 | ₹507.40 | 15 in bulk |
Map of this cluster: 6361–6380
This page is the hub for corporate orders, advances, pricing and commercial risk. Each post below takes one part of it further.
CandleMakingSuppliesIndia sells the wax, oils, dyes, jars, wicks and boxes on this ladder and does not sell finished candles or printed packaging. This page still tells you to buy only a sample kit before the advance, points out that the wax and wicks in this order cost the same per unit from 1 kg and from the smallest pack, and says plainly that two of our liquid dye colours are out of stock.
Every CSI price was checked on the live store on 7 October 2026; every pack offered is in stock on that date, and the Green, Yellow and second-listing Black liquid dyes and the Eco C1 10-pack, which are out, are not offered. CSI does not publish dispatch or transit times, stock depth or lot continuity, and cannot reserve stock for an unpaid order: confirm on WhatsApp.
The 1,000 candles, the custom colour and the missing advance are your figures. The fill, load, extras, buffers, dye dose, sleeve price, use rates, pouring rate, quote and calendar are labelled worked examples; prices and page wording are data. This is practical judgement, not legal or financial advice. For bulk pricing, stock confirmation, GST invoicing, and MSDS and IFRA documentation on request, message us on WhatsApp at +91 7397976926.
Frequently asked questions
- I Need to Buy ₹1 Lakh of Raw Materials for a Corporate Candle Order — How Much Advance Should I Collect Before Placing Supplier Orders?
- Should a Client Advance at Least Cover All Non-Reusable Custom Raw Materials Before I Start Bulk Production?
- A Corporate Client Wants 5,000 Candles but Payment Terms Are 45 Days After Delivery — How Do I Calculate the Working Capital Required to Fulfil the Order?
- A Corporate Client Wants 2,000 Candles but Has Only Given Verbal Confirmation — Should I Reserve Raw Materials Before Receiving a Purchase Order?
- A Client Wants a Large Quantity but May Reduce the Final Order — Should I Buy Raw Materials Before the Quantity Is Contractually Confirmed?
- What Happens to My Raw-Material Investment If a Corporate Client Cancels After I Purchase Custom Jars and Fragrance?
- Which Bulk Candle Raw Materials Can Usually Be Reused for Other Customers and Which Should Be Treated as Client-Specific Financial Risk?
- How Do I Evaluate the Raw-Material and Working-Capital Risk of a Large Corporate Candle Order Before Agreeing to the Price and Payment Terms?
Customer reviews: The six reviews at the top of this page are genuine, published Judge.me reviews left by CSI customers on the product pages named on each card — Candle Dye Liquid, Citrus Lemon Fragrance Oil, Eco Candle Wicks, Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 (Flakes Form) For Container Candles, Luxury Soy Wax Chunks for Jar / Container Candles. They are general product reviews, not assessments of the bulk-order advice on this page. Names, star ratings, dates and products are as recorded by Judge.me and wording is unedited. "Verified buyer" appears only on reviews Judge.me recorded as verified — Suvarna P, Antara Srinivas Iyer, Thenirvaofficial, Monika Deep, Sakshi Jain, Avanthi Cheeli. Reviews below five stars are included as published, not filtered out.
Figures verified 7 October 2026, CSI live pricing: Eucalyptus Spearmint Fragrance Oil 15 g ₹68.44, 50 g ₹212.40, 100 g ₹354.00, 500 g ₹1,652.00, 1 kg ₹3,068.00; Gilli Mitti (Patchouli) 15 g ₹140.00, 50 g ₹448.00, 100 g ₹896.00, 500 g ₹4,480.00, 1 kg ₹8,960.00; Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 500 g ₹260.00, 1 kg ₹507.40, 5 kg ₹2,537.00, 10 kg ₹5,074.00; 200ml Salsa Glass Jar with 63mm Lug Cap (Golden Lid) 5 Pcs ₹200.60, 50 Pcs ₹1,475.00, 100 Pcs ₹2,950.00; 200ml Salsa Purple Glass Jar with 63mm Lug Cap (Golden Lid) 5 ₹310.00, 50 ₹3,100.00, 100 ₹6,200.00; Eco Candle Wicks Thick (C2) 10 ₹94.40, 20 ₹188.80, 50 ₹472.00, 1,000 ₹9,440.00; Candle Dye Liquid Blue 15 gm ₹236.00, 50 gm ₹472.00, 100 gm ₹900.00; Candle Dye Liquid Black 15 ml ₹236.00, 50 ml ₹472.00; Corrugated Box for Candle Packaging (11 x 11 x 8 cm) 50 ₹1,121.00, 100 ₹2,242.00; Candle Care Stickers Roll 1,000 (1.5 inch) ₹699.00. Candle Dye Liquid Green and Yellow are out of stock on 7 October 2026. Stock depth, reservations, lots and dispatch dates are not published: confirm on WhatsApp. Per gram = price ÷ grams, two decimals.
Non-price figures: 1,000 candles, a custom colour and no advance are the reader’s figures (title). The 160 g fill (total-weight basis, 12.8 g oil + 147.2 g wax), 15 extras, 4% loss, 1% heel, 2% piece buffers, 0.5 g/kg dye dose, ₹18.00 sleeves, 30 kg/200 jars/1.5 kg monthly use rates, 80 pours a day, ₹450.00 price, 35-day request and every calendar figure are labelled worked examples. Eucalyptus Spearmint’s page states up to 10% for soy; Gilli Mitti’s 6–10%; CSI 464’s up to 10%. Ceilings are formulation limits, not regulatory ones. This is practical judgement, not legal or financial advice.