The Supplier Gives the External Diameter of the Candle Jar — Can I Use That for Wick Selection or Do I Need the Internal Diameter?
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How big is the error? On a jar listed at 7 cm outside, the outside figure overstates the pool by about 12.5% with 2 mm walls and 36.1% with 5 mm walls. On a 6 cm jar the error is larger; on a 10 cm jar, smaller.
How do I get the internal diameter? Best: calliper inside jaws at the height the pool will sit. Otherwise: outside minus two walls (straight jars only), a steel rule across a straight opening, or water-rise, where grams of water per centimetre of depth give you the inside area.
Do CSI listings give the inside diameter? No. Of 72 container listings, 7 say "outer", 14 give an unspecified "diameter", 20 give a "width" and 31 give neither. None states an internal diameter.
- Straight answer: external or internal?
- How far the outside figure over-reads the pool
- What CSI's 72 container listings actually state
- Five ways to get the inside diameter
- The water-rise table: grams per centimetre to inside diameter
- When the outside diameter is the right number
- Jars, tools and wicks for measuring and testing
- From the inside figure to a wick test
- Frequently asked questions
How far the outside figure over-reads the pool
The wick melts a disc of wax. The disc's area is π × r², using the inside radius. The outside diameter adds two wall thicknesses to that radius's diameter, and the area error grows faster than the length error. For a jar listed at 7 cm outside, with a straight wall, this is what different glass does:
| Wall | Inside diameter | Real pool area | Area if you use 7 cm | Outside figure over-reads by |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.2 cm | 6.6 cm | 34.21 cm² | 38.48 cm² | 12.5% |
| 0.3 cm | 6.4 cm | 32.17 cm² | 38.48 cm² | 19.6% |
| 0.35 cm | 6.3 cm | 31.17 cm² | 38.48 cm² | 23.5% |
| 0.4 cm | 6.2 cm | 30.19 cm² | 38.48 cm² | 27.5% |
| 0.5 cm | 6.0 cm | 28.27 cm² | 38.48 cm² | 36.1% |
Wall thickness varies by mould, glass type and style: heavy "apothecary" and luxury jars tend to be thick-walled, pressed tumblers thinner. The wall figures above are a range to think with, not a claim about any listing. What they show is that the outside number is not a slightly rough version of the inside number; it is a different number, and the gap depends on glass you cannot see in a photograph.
The error is worst on small jars
The same walls take a bigger share of a small jar. Using stated figures from CSI's own listings and two illustrative walls:
| Stated figure | CSI listings using it | 3.5 mm walls: inside · over-read | 5 mm walls: inside · over-read |
|---|---|---|---|
| 6 cm | Shiny 120 g jars, Shot Glass jar ("6 cm") | 5.3 cm · 28.2% | 5 cm · 44.0% |
| 7 cm | Matte 200 ml ("width 7"), 150 g jars ("outer 7"), Iridescent 300 g ("7") | 6.3 cm · 23.5% | 6 cm · 36.1% |
| 10 cm | Apothecary Dome Lid ("outer rim 10") | 9.3 cm · 15.6% | 9 cm · 23.5% |
On a 6 cm jar, 5 mm walls mean the outside figure over-reads the pool by 44.0%; on a 10 cm jar, the same walls give 23.5%. That is one reason small gift jars are easy to over-wick: the maker wicks for "6 cm" and the candle may be 5 cm across.
What over-wicking from the outside figure looks like
If you choose a wick expecting a 38.5 cm² pool and the jar gives you 31 cm², the wick is effectively a size too large for the jar. Common signs: the pool reaches the glass well inside the 3 to 4 hours many makers aim for on a first burn, the pool runs deeper than about 1 cm, the flame stands tall or flickers, soot marks the glass, and the jar runs hot in the last third. These are tendencies; a burn test on your own wax and oil is the only verdict. The less common opposite, under-wicking, happens when a maker "corrects" by guessing a wall and overshoots.
What CSI's 72 container listings actually state
We went through all 72 container listings on our store, from 40 ml mini jars and tealight cups to 700 g apothecary jars, and recorded how each describes its width. This is our own catalogue on 26 September 2026, so we have no reason to flatter it.
| Wording on the page | Listings (in stock) | Examples | What it tells you | What it does not |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| "Outer diameter" / "outer rim" plus a base diameter | 7 (6) | Clear Glass Jar with Golden Lid (150 gram): rim 7, base 6.5; coloured 150 g jars; Apothecary Dome Lid: rim 10, base 10 | The figure is the outside, and the jar narrows or is straight | Wall thickness, so the inside; on the Apothecary jar, which of its two sizes the figures describe |
| "Diameter", unspecified | 14 (11) | Shiny 120 g jars: 6 cm; Shot Glass jar: 6 cm; Green Iridescent 300 g: 7 cm; tealight cups | A size class | Whether it is outside, inside, rim or widest point |
| "Width" | 20 (13) | White Matte and its sisters: "Height 8 cm width 7 cm" | Almost certainly an outside measure | Outside or inside, wall thickness, straight or tapered |
| No diameter or width | 31 | 200ml Salsa lug-cap jars, 70 g votives, borosilicate 600 g, tins ("6 cm x 4 cm", axes unnamed) | Capacity only, if that | Anything about the pool |
| Internal diameter | 0 | — | — | Not stated on any CSI listing |
So 43% of our container listings give no width at all, and the rest give a figure that is outside or unlabelled. Two details matter for wicking. The 150 g jars state a 7 cm rim and a 6.5 cm base: an outside that narrows by 5 mm toward the bottom, so the inside probably does too, and the pool may get smaller as the candle burns down (the implications are in the narrowing-jar guide). And the Apothecary Glass Candle Jar with Dome Lid gives one set of dimensions, rim 10 cm, base 10 cm, height 10.8 cm, for two sizes, 500 g (₹212.40) and 700 g (₹250.00), so they cannot describe both sizes exactly; ask us which before you rely on either.
Five ways to get the inside diameter
| Method | Tools | Typical precision | Works for | Fails when |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. Calliper inside jaws at pool height | Vernier or digital calliper | Better than 0.5 mm | Any jar you can reach into to the pool height | The opening is narrower than the pool (shoulder, lug neck) |
| 2. Outside minus two walls | Calliper for outside and rim wall | About 0.5 mm if walls are even | Straight-sided jars with no lip | A rolled lip, a thicker rim, a taper, a heavy base corner |
| 3. Steel rule across the opening | Steel rule | About 1 mm | Straight jars, reading at the rim | Tapered jars (reads the top only) and shoulders |
| 4. Circumference, then minus walls | Paper strip, rule, calliper for wall | About 1 mm | Reading the outside at a chosen height on curved jars | You do not know the wall at that height |
| 5. Water-rise on a scale | Scale reading 1 g, tape, water | About 1 mm on 6 to 8 cm jars | Any jar, any height, even behind a shoulder | The section is not straight over the depth you fill |
Method 1: the calliper, and where to hold it
Open the inside jaws against the glass at the height the pool will sit on the first burns: about 1 to 2 cm below your fill line. Rotate the calliper a quarter turn and read again; glass jars are rarely perfectly round, and the smaller reading is the honest one. Repeat at the middle and near the base if the jar is not straight. CSI does not sell callipers; a basic one from a hardware shop is enough.
Method 2: outside minus two walls
Measure the wall across the rim with the calliper's outside jaws. Inside = outside − 2 × wall. Worked example: outside 7.0 cm, wall 3.5 mm, inside 6.3 cm. It is fast and it is where most errors come from: many jars have a thickened or rolled rim, so the rim wall is not the body wall, and the base corner is thicker still. Use it only on plain straight tumblers, and cross-check with method 3 or 5.
Methods 3 and 4: rule and paper strip
A steel rule laid across the opening, zero on one inner edge, reads a straight jar to about a millimetre. For a curved jar, wrap a paper strip round the outside at pool height, mark the overlap, measure the length and divide by π (3.14) for the outside diameter at that height; then subtract two walls. It is the way to use a listing like "rim 7, base 6.5" properly: measure the outside at the height you care about instead of guessing between the two.
The water-rise table: grams per centimetre to inside diameter
In a straight section, each centimetre of water depth weighs the inside area in grams, because 1 ml of water is about 1 g and area × 1 cm = volume. So: tare the jar, add water to a first tape mark (say 1 cm above the floor, to clear any rounded base corner), note the reading, add water to a second mark exactly 2 cm higher, and note the grams added. Divide by 2 for grams per centimetre, then find the diameter below.
| Grams per 1 cm of depth | Grams per 2 cm of depth | Inside diameter |
|---|---|---|
| 19.6 g | 39.3 g | 5 cm |
| 23.8 g | 47.5 g | 5.5 cm |
| 28.3 g | 56.5 g | 6 cm |
| 31.2 g | 62.3 g | 6.3 cm |
| 33.2 g | 66.4 g | 6.5 cm |
| 38.5 g | 77.0 g | 7 cm |
| 44.2 g | 88.4 g | 7.5 cm |
| 50.3 g | 100.5 g | 8 cm |
| 63.6 g | 127.2 g | 9 cm |
| 78.5 g | 157.1 g | 10 cm |
Worked example: 60.4 g of water between two marks 2 cm apart is 30.2 g per centimetre, which sits between the 6.0 and 6.3 cm rows: the inside is about 6.2 cm. The formula, if you prefer: inside diameter = 2 × √(grams per cm ÷ π). A 1 g error on a 2 cm rise moves a 6 to 7 cm answer by about half a millimetre, and a tape mark 1 mm off moves it by more, so read to the gram, keep the marks level and repeat once.
The same scale gives you the fill weight: water to your fill line, times a rule-of-thumb factor for wax, then a test pour, as set out in the fill-weight hub.
When the outside diameter is the right number
Keep the outside diameter for everything that sits on or around the jar. Keep the inside diameter for everything that happens in the wax.
| Job | Use | Why |
|---|---|---|
| Wick choice and pool area | Inside, at pool height | The wick melts wax, not glass |
| Double or triple wick spacing | Inside | Spacing is set by the pool each wick must cover |
| Fill weight and net quantity | Neither: weigh water to your fill line | Diameter and height miss base shape and shoulders |
| Wick-holder bars that rest on the rim | Outside at the rim | The Steel Wick Holder page says it "fits most jar diameters (up to 9 cm wide)"; the Wick Centering Device page, openings "less than 4"" (the pages' wording) |
| Lids, labels, boxes, shipping | Outside, and rim for lids | These wrap the glass |
Watch for wick pages that quote a size, too. The Cotton Braided Wicks Ready Made page says "engineered for large-diameter candles exceeding 8 cm" and does not say inside or outside. Treat it as positioning: a hint of which end of the range the wick sits in, never a fitting rule.
Jars, tools and wicks for measuring and testing
Chosen to show each kind of diameter wording on our store, plus the scale and the wick rungs the next step needs. Selection is on stated wording, price and stock on 26 September 2026; CSI has no burn data for any jar.
| Pack | Price | Per jar | What it covers |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pack of 10 | ₹944.00 | ₹94.40 | measure 3, then a nine-candle, three-rung bracket |
| Pack of 20 | ₹1,888.00 | ₹94.40 | the bracket plus a burn-down jar for each rung and spares |
| Pack | Price | Per jar | What it covers |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pack of 5 | ₹354.00 | ₹70.80 | measure 2, burn 3 in a C1/C2/braided bracket |
| Pack of 10 | ₹708.00 | ₹70.80 | a full nine-candle bracket plus one spare |
| Pack | Price | Per jar | What it covers |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pack of 1 | ₹47.20 | ₹47.20 | one jar to measure before buying more |
| Pack of 5 | ₹236.00 | ₹47.20 | measure 2, bracket C1/C2 in 3 |
| Item | Price | Per unit | What it covers |
|---|---|---|---|
| Single | ₹354.00 | ₹354.00 | water-rise, fill-line and finished-candle weighings |
| Pack | Price | Per wick | What it covers |
|---|---|---|---|
| C1 / 10 | ₹59.00 | ₹5.90 | lower rung, three candles |
| C2 / 10 | ₹94.40 | ₹9.44 | middle rung, three candles |
| Cotton Braided / 10 | ₹120.00 | ₹12.00 | upper rung, three candles |
From the inside figure to a wick test
Once you have a measured inside, the next step is the same whichever jar it is: choose three wick rungs that sit either side of your best guess, pour three candles on each, and judge them over a full burn. The measuring guards against the most common mistake, starting from a figure 12% to 36% too big, but it does not replace the test. How to choose the first three rungs for a straight jar is set out in the first-three-wicks guide, and why diameter, not ml, drives the choice in the diameter-and-wick hub.
| Item | Buy | Price | Role |
|---|---|---|---|
| Clear Glass Jar with Golden Lid (150 gram) | Pack of 10 | ₹944.00 | 3 measured (then dried and reused), 9 poured, 1 spare |
| Eco C1 + C2 + Cotton Braided | 10 each | ₹273.40 | Three rungs, three candles each, spares for a retest |
| Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 | 1 kg + 500 g | ₹767.40 | Nine 150 g candles at 8% need 1,242 g of wax (worth ₹630.19); 1.5 kg leaves about 250 g for top-ups and pitcher loss |
| Your fragrance oil | 108 g | already owned | 12 g per candle at 8% |
| Total new spend | ₹1,984.80 | ₹2,338.80 with the scale; ₹1,748.80 using a pack of 10 White Matte jars instead |
A note on the 150 g jar and its load: its page's "hot pour up to 85°C" wording sits inside CSI 464's stated 80°C to 90°C pour range, and the lower of the two limits governs, so pour at 80°C to 85°C into that jar. CSI 464's page states a fragrance load of up to 10%; that is a ceiling, not a target, and the wick test is best run at the load you will sell. Wax is ₹0.51 a gram at 1 kg and the same per gram up to 10 kg. Costs exclude labour, freight, packaging and GST.
CandleMakingSuppliesIndia sells the jars, wicks, scale and wax named here, and does not sell finished candles. This page audits our own 72 container listings and reports that none states an inside diameter, that 31 state no width at all, and that one gives a single set of dimensions for two sizes. We would rather you measured than trusted us.
Every price and per-jar or per-wick figure was verified on CSI's live store on 26 September 2026; every pack in a pick table is in stock on that date. Diameter, capacity and heat wording is quoted from the product pages, and the counts come from reading every listing.
Wall thicknesses in the tables are illustrative; pool areas are π × r²; the water-rise method relies on 1 ml of water weighing about 1 g; "measure three, wick for the smallest" and the kit are editorial judgement; full pool in 3 to 4 hours and 0.5 to 1 cm pool depth are common rules of thumb. For bulk pricing, GST invoicing, and MSDS and IFRA documentation on request, message us on WhatsApp at +91 7397976926.
Frequently asked questions
- My Candle Jar Holds 200 ml but Has a 7 cm Internal Diameter — Which Measurement Should I Use When Choosing the Wick?
- I'm Switching Candle Jar Suppliers but the New Jar Looks Almost Identical — What Measurements Must Match Before I Keep the Same Wick?
- How Much Can a 5 mm Difference in Candle Jar Diameter Affect the Wick Size and Melt Pool?
- I Have a Straight-Sided 3-Inch Candle Jar — How Do I Choose the First Three Wick Sizes to Test Rather Than Guessing Randomly?
- My Jar Narrows Toward the Bottom — Should I Select the Wick Based on the Top, Middle or Bottom Internal Diameter?
- I'm Buying a 4-Inch-Wide Luxury Candle Jar — Should I Plan for One Wick, Two Wicks or Three Before Ordering Production Quantities?
- I'm Using the Same Amount of Wax in a Tall Narrow Jar and a Short Wide Jar — Why Do They Need Different Wick Sizes?
- I Want to Standardise One Wick Across Multiple Candle Jars — How Similar Do Their Internal Diameters Need to Be?
- My Glass Jars Are Cheap but Their Dimensions Vary Slightly Between Batches — How Can That Affect Wick Testing and Production Consistency?
- I Bought a 200 ml Candle Jar — Does That Mean I Should Put 200 g of Wax in It or Will the Actual Wax Weight Be Different?
Customer reviews: The six reviews at the top of this page are genuine, published Judge.me reviews left by CSI customers on the product pages named on each card — Bamboo Wick Holder, Black Matte Glass Jar, Ceramic Jar for Candle Making, Clear Glass Jar with Golden Lid (150 gram), Eco Candle Wicks, Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 (Flakes Form) For Container Candles. They are general product reviews, not assessments of the container advice on this page. Names, star ratings, dates and products are as recorded by Judge.me and wording is unedited. "Verified buyer" appears only on reviews Judge.me recorded as verified — Soumili Gope, Tina Lynette Lazaro Moganti, Jaya Sawlani. The reviews from Ashwini, Lalitha Jagan, Jinal are published but not recorded as verified, and carry no badge. Reviews below five stars are included as published, not filtered out.
Figures verified 26 September 2026, CSI live pricing: Clear Glass Jar with Golden Lid (150 gram) Pack of 10 ₹944.00, Pack of 20 ₹1,888.00 (₹94.40 per jar); coloured 150 gram jars ₹107.00 per jar (Amber out of stock); White Matte Glass Jar Pack of 5 ₹354.00, Pack of 10 ₹708.00 (₹70.80 per jar); Black Shiny Glass Jar with Golden Lid Pack of 1 ₹47.20, Pack of 5 ₹236.00; Red, Green, Navy Blue and Purple Shiny ₹50.00 single; Apothecary Glass Candle Jar with Dome Lid 500 gm ₹212.40, 700 gm ₹250.00; Candle Making Weighing Scale ₹354.00; Eco Candle Wicks Thin (C1) 10 ₹59.00; Thick (C2) 10 ₹94.40; Cotton Braided Wicks Ready Made 10 ₹120.00; Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 500 g ₹260.00, 1 kg ₹507.40. Per jar = pack price ÷ units; per wick = pack price ÷ wicks; two decimals.
Non-price figures: listing counts (7 outer, 14 unspecified diameter, 20 width, 31 neither, 0 internal) are from reading all 72 CSI container listings on 26 September 2026. Wall thicknesses of 2 to 5 mm are illustrative; pool area = π × r² on the inside radius; 1 ml of water ≈ 1 g. Full pool in 3 to 4 hours and 0.5 to 1 cm pool depth are common rules of thumb. Load is a percentage of total candle weight (150 g at 8% = 12 g oil + 138 g wax). Costs exclude labour, freight, packaging and GST.