Two Candle Jars Both Hold 200 g but One Is Tall and Narrow While the Other Is Short and Wide — Why Can They Require Completely Different Wick Systems?
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Can one bracket cover both? No. Run two brackets side by side: C1 v C2 in the tall jar, one Cotton Braided v two C1s in the wide jar, three candles per arm. Twelve candles, same wax, oil, load and room.
How long does each take? Plan by sessions to full life, not by days. In our worked example the tall jar needs about 12 three-hour sessions and the wide jar about 4 four-hour sessions: three times as many for the tall one.
Where does each fail, if it fails? The tall jar late, deep in a narrow column of glass, after many sessions. The wide jar early in calendar terms: its final third arrives by session 3, with the multi-wick questions of spacing and centre heat.
- Straight answer: why two wick systems?
- Same grams, two different candles
- Measure first: which jar is which
- Two brackets, run side by side
- The test-hour budget: sessions to full life
- Late burn: where each jar fails, if it fails
- Twelve candles in grams, wicks and rupees
- What to buy, and what to skip
- Frequently asked questions
Same grams, two different candles
Take our worked example: a jar 6.0 cm inside and a jar 9.0 cm inside, each filled with 200 g of Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 at 8% Jasmine (16 g oil + 184 g wax). At a rule-of-thumb 0.9 g of wax per ml, the narrow candle stands about 7.86 cm deep with a 28.27 cm² pool. The wide one stands about 3.49 cm deep with a 63.62 cm² pool, 182.25 times the area. Why a wider, shallower pool asks more of a single wick is the physics of the tall-narrow versus short-wide post, and how +50% weight translates into area is the 200 g to 300 g mismatch table. This page takes the physics as given and plans the testing.
What matters for planning is that the two candles differ in three ways at once. Pool: the wide jar needs more melting power at the surface; with two wicks, each faces 31.81 cm², close to the narrow jar's 28.27 cm². Depth: the narrow jar has more than twice as much wax column for the flame to travel down, and the last few centimetres sit inside a tube of glass that has been absorbing heat for hours. Life: the narrow candle burns for many more sessions before its final third, so its problems surface late in the calendar; the wide candle's surface early.
That is why "completely different wick systems" is often literally true. The narrow jar may be a single C1 or C2 for a dozen sessions. The wide jar may be two C1s for four. Same oil, same wax, same load, same 200 g, different answers, and neither result tells you anything about the other.
Measure first: which jar is which
"Tall" and "wide" are not measurements. Before you plan anything, measure each jar inside at rim, middle and base, twice at right angles, and weigh water to your fill line. If a jar tapers, the pool you test at the top is not the pool you will have near the bottom; that is its own problem, and worth knowing before the bracket starts.
Whether the figure to choose a wick by is the capacity or the inside diameter is the 200 ml, 7 cm question. Here the answer is assumed: inside diameter for the bracket, weighed fill for the grams.
Two brackets, run side by side
Hold everything except the wick build: same CSI 464 bag, Jasmine at 8% on total weight, the same pour temperature (the CSI 464 page states 80°C–90°C; if your jar states a lower hot-pour limit, the lower figure governs), one cure, one still room. Within each jar vary one thing. Across the jars nothing is being compared: you are running two experiments on the same bench to share a calendar, not one experiment with two jars.
| Jar | Arm | Build | Why | Candles |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tall-narrow, 6.0 cm inside | T1 | One Eco C1, centred | CSI’s smallest sized, tabbed wick; 3.0 cm to the wall | 3 |
| Tall-narrow, 6.0 cm inside | T2 | One Eco C2, centred | One rung up; Cotton Braided’s page puts it above this jar | 3 |
| Short-wide, 9.0 cm inside | W1 | One Cotton Braided, centred | Page wording: "large-diameter candles exceeding 8 cm" | 3 |
| Short-wide, 9.0 cm inside | W2 | Two Eco C1, 3.5 cm apart | Each faces 31.81 cm²; 2.75 cm to the wall | 3 |
| Both | 12 |
Three candles per arm, not two, because both jars carry a risk that one odd candle could hide: the tall jar's late heat and the wide jar's two-wick balance. The 3.5 cm spacing is geometry that leaves each flame 2.75 cm from the wall; where to place two wicks before comparing sizes is the 9 cm placement post. If W2 leaves a strip between the pools, that is a spacing finding, not a size verdict. And if you want to know which is better in a wide jar, one larger wick or two smaller ones, at 8.5 cm, that comparison has its own page: one or two wicks at 8.5 cm.
| Jar | Result | Decision |
|---|---|---|
| Tall | T1 passes, T2 runs hot late | C1. The late sessions decided it, not burn 1 |
| Tall | T1 tunnels, T2 passes | C2; watch its final sessions in the next batch |
| Tall | T1 tunnels, T2 hot late | Between CSI rungs. Ask us; another supplier’s in-between size may fit |
| Wide | W1 passes, W2 passes | Choose on production and the late burn; one wick is quicker to set |
| Wide | W1 leaves wall wax or soots, W2 passes | Two wicks |
| Wide | W2 leaves a strip; W1 passes | One wick, or re-test the pair further apart before going up a size |
| Wide | Neither passes | Next round: 2 × C2, or W2 at a new spacing; one change at a time |
The test-hour budget: sessions to full life
A bracket is not finished until its candles reach about 1 cm left, so the cost that matters is how many valid sessions each candle needs. That depends on how much wax sits above the stop line and how fast the candle burns it. Measure the rate: weigh each candle before and after its first two sessions and divide by hours. Our worked example assumes 5 g per hour for the single wick in the tall jar and 9 g per hour for two C1s in the wide jar; yours will differ, and the budget should be redone with your figures.
| Line | Tall-narrow, 6.0 cm | Short-wide, 9.0 cm |
|---|---|---|
| Wax below the 1 cm stop (not burned in testing) | 25.4 g | 57.3 g |
| Wax burned to the stop | 174.6 g | 142.7 g |
| Burn rate (worked example) | 5.0 g per hour, one wick | 9.0 g per hour, two C1 |
| Hours to the stop, per candle | about 34.9 h | about 15.9 h |
| Session length | 3 h (rule of thumb about 2.4 h for the first burn) | 4 h (about 3.6 h for the first burn) |
| Sessions to the stop, per candle | 12 | 4 |
| Depth burned per session | about 0.59 cm | about 0.63 cm |
| Six candles: candle-hours | 209 | 95 |
| Six candles: candle-sessions | 72 | 24 |
The tall jar needs 3 times as many sessions per candle. Burn one session per candle per day with a full cool-down overnight (our judgement; never stack sessions on a warm candle) and, after a 7-day cure, the wide bracket is finished on day 11 and the tall bracket on day 19. Run both on one bench and the wide jar's answer arrives eight days before the tall jar's. If the wide jar used one Cotton Braided at a slower rate than our 9 g per hour, it would need more sessions; re-run the budget once you have weighed the first two sessions of each arm.
For a calendar: Diwali is 8 November 2026, 40 days from 29 September 2026. A bench poured this week reaches the tall jar's last session about 19 days later, which leaves room for one retest round, but not two. Budgeting a much larger commercial programme the same way, in grams per hour and shifts, is the 12 cm test-count budget; the 7 cm full-life calendar is the full-life calendar post.
Late burn: where each jar fails, if it fails
Both jars can pass the first three burns and fail later, but not in the same way. These are tendencies to watch for, not predictions; neither CSI nor anyone else can tell you from geometry alone which one your candles will show.
| What to watch | Tall-narrow | Short-wide |
|---|---|---|
| When the final third starts | From about session 8 of 12 in the worked example: late in the calendar | Session 3 of 4: almost at once |
| Heat build | Glass above the pool has absorbed heat for many sessions; the pool can deepen and the flame grow low down (commonly) | Less glass above the pool; heat concentrates between two flames in the centre (commonly) |
| Flame and glass | Narrow jar: less room between flame and wall; any drift matters more | Two flames: check each one’s distance to the wall and to each other |
| Wick behaviour | Carbon build-up on the wick after many sessions (commonly with longer burns) | Wick tabs near the pool sooner in shallow wax; one wick drowning or leaning |
| Typical failing arm | The larger wick (C2), late | The single wick leaving wall wax, or the pair running hot in the centre |
For the tall jar, why a flame that behaved at the top grows halfway down is the flame-grows-halfway post, and what only appears in the second half of a candle's life is the second-half problems post. For the wide jar, when the bottom of a multi-wick candle becomes hot is the multi-wick bottom-heat post. Read them before you approve either jar on its first few sessions.
Twelve candles in grams, wicks and rupees
| Item | Bought | Used | Cost of what is used |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jasmine Fragrance Oil | 2 × 100 g, ₹860.00 | 192 g (8 g left) | ₹825.60 |
| Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 | 2 × 1 kg + 500 g, ₹1,274.80 | 2,208 g (292 g left) | ₹1,120.34 |
| Eco C1 · Eco C2 · Cotton Braided | 20 ₹118.00 · 10 ₹94.40 · 10 ₹120.00 | 9 · 3 · 3 | ₹117.42 |
| Steel Wick Holder (optional) | pack of 5, ₹250.00 | 3, reusable | reusable |
| Total | cash ₹2,717.20 | 12 candles | ₹2,063.36 |
Per candle before the jar: tall on C1 ₹168.06, tall on C2 ₹171.60; wide on Cotton Braided ₹174.16, wide on two C1s ₹173.96. The wick choice moves the cost by a few rupees; the shape decision moves the test calendar by a week. Costs exclude labour, freight, packaging and GST.
What to buy, and what to skip
Five items, chosen on page statements, price and stock on 29 September 2026. CSI publishes no wick-performance data, so nothing is ranked on burn results. Candle counts in the oil table use 16 g (200 g) and 12 g (150 g) of oil per candle at 8%.
| Pack | Price | Per unit | What it covers here |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5 Pcs | ₹200.60 | ₹40.12 | samples to measure and test |
| 50 Pcs | ₹1,475.00 | ₹29.50 | production; ₹10.62 less per jar than the 5-piece pack |
| 100 Pcs | ₹2,950.00 | ₹29.50 | the same per jar as 50 |
| Pack | Price | Per unit | What it covers here |
|---|---|---|---|
| Thin (C1) / 10 | ₹59.00 — Out of stock | ₹5.90 | Out of stock on 29 September 2026 |
| Thin (C1) / 20 | ₹118.00 | ₹5.90 | 3 tall + 6 wide, 11 spare |
| Thick (C2) / 10 | ₹94.40 | ₹9.44 | 3 tall candles, 7 spare |
| Thick (C2) / 20 | ₹188.80 | ₹9.44 | only with a later 2 × C2 wide arm |
| Pack | Price | Per unit | What it covers here |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pack of 10 | ₹120.00 | ₹12.00 | 3 wide candles, 7 spare |
| Pack of 50 · 100 | ₹600.00 · ₹1,200.00 | ₹12.00 | production only |
| Size | Price | Per gram | 200 g candles at 8% | 150 g candles at 8% |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 g | ₹103.00 | ₹6.87 | 0 | 1 |
| 50 g | ₹230.00 | ₹4.60 | 3 | 4 |
| 100 g | ₹430.00 | ₹4.30 | 6 | 8 |
| 500 g | ₹1,961.00 | ₹3.92 | 31 | 41 |
| 1 kg | ₹3,923.00 | ₹3.92 | 62 | 83 |
| Pack | Price | Per unit | What it covers here |
|---|---|---|---|
| Single | ₹354.00 | ₹354.00 | grams per hour, fill weights, oil |
CandleMakingSuppliesIndia sells the wicks, oil, wax and the 200 ml jar named here, and does not sell finished candles. This page still says our Salsa jar states no dimensions and holds less than 200 g, that the C2 10-pack is enough for this plan, and that a kitchen scale will do.
Every price was verified on CSI's live store on 29 September 2026. Stock was checked per size: the Eco C1 10-pack is out of stock on that date and is flagged wherever it appears; every other size shown is in stock. Jar wording, wick wording and temperatures are quoted from the product pages; where a page is silent in the text we captured, we say so.
The two worked-example jars, burn rates, session lengths, spacing, the 0.9 g per ml rule of thumb and the bracket readings are our judgement or illustration; late-burn behaviour is described as tendencies; CSI publishes no wick-performance data. For bulk pricing, GST invoicing, and MSDS and IFRA documentation on request, message us on WhatsApp at +91 7397976926.
Frequently asked questions
- I Have 6 cm, 7 cm, 8 cm, 9 cm and 10 cm Candle Jars — How Do I Build a Wick-Testing Matrix Without Randomly Buying Every Wick Size?
- I’m Launching 10 Fragrances in One 8 cm Jar — How Many Wick Sizes Should I Initially Test with Each Fragrance Before Narrowing the Range?
- I’m Launching Three Jar Sizes in Eight Fragrances — How Do I Organise Wick Testing so I Can Identify Jar Effects Separately from Fragrance Effects?
- I Use the Same 8 cm Jar Across My Collection — How Much Inventory Complexity Can I Eliminate by Standardising the Container Before Optimising Wicks?
- I Want to Change My Jar from 7.5 cm to 8 cm Internal Diameter — Is a 5 mm Difference Enough to Justify Retesting Every Fragrance?
- My Jar Supplier Changed the Internal Diameter Slightly While Keeping the Same External Dimensions — Should I Treat It as a New Candle System for Wick Testing?
- I Have a Working Wick for My 200 g Candle but Want to Create a 300 g Version in a Wider Jar — Why Can’t I Simply Choose a Proportionally Larger Wick?
- My Customers Ask for Stronger Candles so I’m Considering Larger Wicks — Why Should I Optimise Fragrance Diffusion Separately Instead of Intentionally Over-Wicking?
Customer reviews: The six reviews at the top of this page are genuine, published Judge.me reviews left by CSI customers on the product pages named on each card — Eco Candle Wicks, Jasmine Fragrance Oil, Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 (Flakes Form) For Container Candles, White Matte Glass Jar, White Matte Votive Jar 70 gram. They are general product reviews, not assessments of the wick advice on this page. Names, star ratings, dates and products are as recorded by Judge.me and wording is unedited. "Verified buyer" appears only on reviews Judge.me recorded as verified — Monika Deep, Jaya Sawlani. The reviews from S.A., Ashwini, Ashwini, Ashwini are published but not recorded as verified, and carry no badge. Reviews below five stars are included as published, not filtered out.
Figures verified 29 September 2026, CSI live pricing: 200ml Salsa Glass Jar with 63mm Lug Cap (Golden Lid) 5 Pcs ₹200.60, 50 Pcs ₹1,475.00, 100 Pcs ₹2,950.00; Eco Candle Wicks Thin (C1) 10 ₹59.00 (out of stock), 20 ₹118.00; Thick (C2) 10 ₹94.40, 20 ₹188.80; Cotton Braided Wicks Ready Made 10 ₹120.00, 50 ₹600.00, 100 ₹1,200.00; Steel Wick Holder (Set of 5) ₹250.00; Jasmine Fragrance Oil 15 g ₹103.00, 50 g ₹230.00, 100 g ₹430.00, 500 g ₹1,961.00, 1 kg ₹3,923.00; Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 500 g ₹260.00, 1 kg ₹507.40; Candle Making Weighing Scale ₹354.00. Every other size named is in stock on 29 September 2026. Per unit = price ÷ grams or units, two decimals.
Non-price figures: load is a percentage of total candle weight (200 g at 8% = 16 g oil + 184 g wax). Pool area = π r² on inside diameters; depths use a 0.9 g per ml rule of thumb (commonly used figures run about 0.86–0.9 × water weight). Burn rates of 5 and 9 g per hour, session lengths, jar heights and the 3.5 cm spacing are worked-example assumptions; first-burn times use the rough one-hour-per-2.5 cm rule of thumb. Late-burn behaviour is described as tendencies. CSI 464 pour 80–90°C is page wording. Costs exclude labour, freight, packaging and GST. Diwali 8 November 2026 is a calendar fact.