I Want to Change My Jar from 7.5 cm to 8 cm Internal Diameter — Is a 5 mm Difference Enough to Justify Retesting Every Fragrance?
शेयर करना
Which fragrances should I retest? One representative per behaviour group, plus every combination your 7.5 cm records marked borderline on the side the wider jar threatens: oils that only just reached the edge. Borderline-hot oils get a short screen. The rest carry over on their group's evidence, with one candle from the first production batch burned to full life.
How many candles? In our twelve-oil worked example: 14 test candles (6 oils × 2 to full life, 1 oil × 2 screened), against 24 to check every oil and 72 to re-bracket them all.
What does it cost? ₹2,988.49 of oil, wax and wicks for the triage (your jars excluded; CSI lists no 8 cm jar), against ₹4,796.33 to check every oil.
- Straight answer: retest groups, not the list
- What 5 mm does to the pool
- The pool-area change sets the level of risk
- Sort the approved list by group and margin
- The triage table: retest, screen or carry
- Three ways to retest, costed
- Reading the retest: when a representative fails
- Buying for the retest
- Frequently asked questions
What 5 mm does to the pool
Your title gives internal diameters, so we use them directly; if your figures came from a listing, measure the inside at the rim, the middle and about 1 cm above the base first. Pool area is π r² on the inside radius; the figures below are geometry, not burn predictions. The general maths of a 5 mm change, across diameters, is the 5 mm post; here we only need this one step.
| Measure | 7.5 cm inside | 8 cm inside | Change |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pool area to the glass | 44.18 cm² | 50.27 cm² | +6.09 cm² (+13.8%) |
| Centre wick to wall | 3.75 cm | 4.00 cm | +2.5 mm (+6.7%) |
| Rough first-burn time (about 1 h per 2.5 cm, rule of thumb) | about 3.0 h | about 3.2 h | a fifth of an hour more |
| Fill to the same line | 200 g (worked example) | about 227.6 g | our worked example pours 225 g |
| At 8% of total weight | 16 g oil + 184 g wax | 18 g oil + 207 g wax | 2 g more oil per candle |
For scale: a 1 mm difference between two lots of the same 8 cm jar changes the pool by about 2.5%; going from 7 cm to 8 cm, as in the 7 to 8 cm post, changes it by 30.6%. The 7.5 → 8 step sits between those, which is why it gets its own scope rather than either answer. Drift between lots of what is meant to be the same jar is the incoming-lot post.
The pool-area change sets the level of risk
Set your bands in advance and write them down. Ours, labelled as judgement for a soy container range on one wick system:
| Pool-area change | Typical cause | Scope |
|---|---|---|
| Under about 5% | Lot variation of a millimetre or two | Screen the group representatives; carry the rest; log it |
| About 5–15% | A deliberate small jar change, like 7.5 → 8 cm (13.8%) | Triage by group: representatives and borderline-under oils to full life; borderline-over screened; comfortable oils carried with a production check |
| Over about 15% | A different jar (7 → 8 cm is 30.6%) | Treat as a new candle system: re-bracket per group, full life for every approved oil |
At 13.8% you are near the top of the middle band. That is a reason to be strict inside the triage, for instance by counting "edge on burn 3" as borderline rather than comfortable, not a reason to jump bands. Anything else that changes with the jar moves you up a band whatever the area says: a thicker base, a strong taper, a different glass, a new fill height or a wick count change. If the new jar is also taller, the final third sits lower and burns longer; treat it as a new system.
Sort the approved list by group and margin
For each approved oil you need two things from the old records: its behaviour group (oils that behaved alike on the house wick) and its margin, how far it was from failing and in which direction. A useful margin note is the burn on which the pool first reached the wall, plus the trimmed flame height. Our worked example is twelve oils, all approved at 7.5 cm on Eco C2 in Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 at 8% (CSI 464's page: "Fragrance Load Up to 10%").
| Oil | Group | Page candle load | Edge reached (7.5 cm) | Margin | Triage at 8 cm |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lavender | L · light floral/herbal | Recommended fragrance load 6-10% for candles | burn 2 | comfortable | Retest: full life, 2 candles (group representative) |
| British Rose | L · light floral/herbal | candles (up to 10% soy, up to 6% paraffin) | burn 1 | borderline over: pool fast, flame 4.5–5 cm | Screen: 2 candles, burns 1–3 |
| Citrus Lemon | L · light floral/herbal | candles (6-10%) | burn 1 | comfortable | Carry over: first production batch, 1 candle to full life |
| Eucalyptus Spearmint | L · light floral/herbal | Recommended fragrance load up to 10% for soy wax, up to 6% for paraffin | burn 2 | comfortable | Carry over: first production batch, 1 candle to full life |
| Bergamot Amber | M · fruity/fresh/amber | 6-10% for soy wax candles, cure 48-72 hours. 6-8% for paraffin wax | burn 2 | comfortable | Retest: full life, 2 candles (group representative) |
| Blue Ocean | M · fruity/fresh/amber | candles (up to 10%) | burn 1 | comfortable | Carry over: first production batch, 1 candle to full life |
| Fresh Strawberries | M · fruity/fresh/amber | Recommended fragrance load 6-9% for candles | burn 1 | comfortable | Carry over: first production batch, 1 candle to full life |
| Apple Cinnamon | M · fruity/fresh/amber | 6-10% for soy wax candles, cure 48-72 hours. 6-8% for paraffin wax | burn 3 | borderline under: edge only on burn 3 | Retest: full life, 2 candles (borderline on the risky side) |
| Dark Vanilla | H · vanilla/coffee/oud | candles (6-10%) | burn 3 | borderline under: edge on burn 3, light carbon | Retest: full life, 2 candles (borderline on the risky side) |
| Roasted Coffee | H · vanilla/coffee/oud | candles (6-10%) | burn 2 | comfortable | Carry over: first production batch, 1 candle to full life |
| Woody Oud | H · vanilla/coffee/oud | candles (6-10%) | burn 2 | comfortable | Retest: full life, 2 candles (group representative) |
| Vanilla Bean | H · vanilla/coffee/oud | Recommended Fragrance Load: Up to 10% for soy wax Up to 6% for paraffin wax | burn 3 | borderline under: ring at burn 2, closed burn 3 | Retest: full life, 2 candles (borderline on the risky side) |
How the representatives were picked: in each group, the non-borderline oil whose 7.5 cm pool was slowest, with ties broken by base-note weight (our reading of each page's stated notes). So Lavender ("soft musk base") speaks for the light group, Bergamot Amber for the fresh/fruity group and Woody Oud for the heavy group. Borderline oils are not representatives; they are retested in their own right. All loads sit inside both ceilings at 8%; Fresh Strawberries' page states "6-9%", the lowest maximum here, and 8% is inside it.
The triage table: retest, screen or carry
| Category | Who | Test at 8 cm | Pass means | Worked example |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Representative | One per group: the slowest comfortable oil | Current wick, 2 candles, full life | Edge by burn 2–3, depth about 0.5–1 cm, flame in your range, no carbon growth, flame clear of the glass to the end | Lavender, Bergamot Amber, Woody Oud |
| Borderline under | Edge only on burn 3, a ring at burn 2, or carbon at 7.5 cm | Current wick, 2 candles, full life | As above; if not, run the contingency rung | Apple Cinnamon, Dark Vanilla, Vanilla Bean |
| Borderline over | Fast pool, flame near the top of your range at 7.5 cm | Current wick, 2 candles, burns 1–3 | Flame and depth inside your range; the wider pool usually eases it (tendency); full life only if not | British Rose |
| Carry over | Comfortable, not a representative | No test candles; 1 candle from the first production batch burned to full life | Matches its group representative's 8 cm result | Citrus Lemon, Eucalyptus Spearmint, Blue Ocean, Fresh Strawberries, Roasted Coffee |
Running the triage
The carry-over check is not a formality. A carried oil goes into production on its group's evidence, and the first batch's full-life candle is the moment that evidence is confirmed for that oil. If it disagrees with its representative, stop pouring that oil and retest it as borderline. The scheduling of a retest like this across a whole range, with more oils than candles, is the same logic as the grouping post.
Three ways to retest, costed
All three plans use 225 g candles at 8% (18 g oil + 207 g wax), oils at their 500 g per-gram prices (the stock you already hold for production), CSI 464 at the 10 kg price and CSI's flat per-wick prices: C1 ₹5.90, C2 ₹9.44, Cotton Braided ₹12.00. Jars are excluded because they are yours; count them as one per candle.
| Plan | Candles | Oil | Wax | Wicks | Cost |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Re-bracket every oil (C1, C2, Cotton Braided × 2) | 72 | 1,296 g (108 g each) · ₹6,147.01 | 14,904 g · ₹7,562.29 | 24 + 24 + 24 · ₹656.16 | ₹14,365.46 |
| Full-life check of every oil on C2 | 24 | 432 g · ₹2,049.00 | 4,968 g · ₹2,520.76 | 24 C2 | ₹4,796.33 |
| Triage by group (this page) | 14 | 252 g · ₹1,385.88 | 2,898 g · ₹1,470.45 | 14 C2 · ₹132.16 | ₹2,988.49 |
| Contingency, only if needed: Cotton Braided arm for the three borderline-under oils | up to 6 | 36 g each | 1,242 g | 6 Cotton Braided | up to ₹1,425.92 |
The triage uses 42% fewer test candles than checking every oil and 81% fewer than re-bracketing, and saves ₹1,807.84 in materials against the full check. The bigger saving is burn time: every full-life candle in an 8 cm jar is many sessions of supervised burning, and the triage puts those hours on the six oils where a failure is plausible.
Reading the retest: when a representative fails
| Result | Reading | Next step |
|---|---|---|
| All representatives and borderline-under oils pass; British Rose screens clean | The 5 mm step stays inside the current build's margin | Approve the 8 cm builds; carry the rest with their production checks |
| A borderline-under oil fails under (ring persists, carbon) | That oil was already short of heat at 7.5 cm | Run the Cotton Braided arm for it (2 candles to full life); its page wording "exceeding 8 cm" puts 8 cm on the border, so test, don't assume |
| A representative fails under | The group as a whole is short of heat at 8 cm | Retest every oil in that group, current wick and Cotton Braided, 2 each; other groups unaffected |
| Cotton Braided passes the ring but runs hot late in the jar | The answer sits between C2 and Cotton Braided, where CSI lists no sized, tabbed wick | Check centring, fill height and load; ask us on WhatsApp; another supplier's in-between size may be the honest answer |
| British Rose still runs hot at 8 cm | Over-wicked even with more pool | Bracket one rung down (C1) in the 8 cm jar, 2 candles, full life |
The vanilla case has its own deep-dive at 8 cm, a one-rung-up comparison judged in the lower third: the 8 cm vanilla post. The two-burn catch-up logic that makes "edge on burn 3" a borderline note rather than a fail is the 7.5–8 cm hub. If several groups fail together, the problem is the system, not the oils; the diagnostic for a lot that is only a few millimetres wider is the few-millimetres-wider diagnostic.
Buying for the retest
Four items, chosen on page wording, price and stock on 29 September 2026. CSI publishes no wick-performance data, so nothing is ranked on burn results; oil yields are counted at 18 g per 225 g candle.
| Pack | Price | Per wick | In this retest |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 · 20 | ₹94.40 · ₹188.80 | ₹9.44 | not enough for 14 retest candles on their own |
| 50 | ₹472.00 | ₹9.44 | 14 retest wicks, 36 left for repeats and the carry-over checks |
| 100 · 500 · 1,000 | ₹944.00 · ₹4,720.00 · ₹9,440.00 | ₹9.44 | production, once the 8 cm jar has passed |
| Pack | Price | Per wick | In this retest |
|---|---|---|---|
| 10 | ₹120.00 | ₹12.00 | the contingency arm (up to 6), 4 spare |
| 50 · 100 | ₹600.00 · ₹1,200.00 | ₹12.00 | only if Cotton Braided wins the heavy group |
| Size | Price | Per gram | 225 g candles at 8% |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15 g | ₹130.00 | ₹8.67 | 0 |
| 50 g | ₹410.00 | ₹8.20 | 2 |
| 100 g | ₹790.00 | ₹7.90 | 5 |
| 500 g | ₹3,840.00 | ₹7.68 | 27 |
| 1 kg | ₹7,646.00 | ₹7.65 | 55 |
| Size | Price | Per gram | 225 g candles at 8% |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15 g | ₹105.02 | ₹7.00 | 0 |
| 50 g | ₹270.00 | ₹5.40 | 2 |
| 100 g | ₹540.00 | ₹5.40 | 5 |
| 500 g | ₹2,620.00 | ₹5.24 | 27 |
| 1 kg | ₹5,221.00 | ₹5.22 | 55 |
CandleMakingSuppliesIndia sells the wicks, wax and oils named here and does not sell finished candles. This page recommends the retest that uses the fewest of our wicks, says plainly that we list neither a 7.5 cm nor an 8 cm jar, and that our range has no sized wick between C2 and Cotton Braided.
Every price was verified on CSI's live store on 29 September 2026, with stock checked per size: the Eco C1 10-pack and the 7.5 cm-width bamboo-lid jars are out of stock on that date. Load, vanillin, notes and cure wording are quoted from the product pages.
The scope bands, triage rules, representatives, margins, the 225 g fill and the twelve-oil records are our judgement or worked examples; flame, depth and first-burn times are commonly cited rules of thumb, and CSI publishes no wick-performance data. For bulk pricing, GST invoicing, and MSDS and IFRA documentation on request, message us on WhatsApp at +91 7397976926.
Frequently asked questions
- My Jar Supplier Changed the Internal Diameter Slightly While Keeping the Same External Dimensions — Should I Treat It as a New Candle System for Wick Testing?
- I’m Using a 7.5 cm Jar with Soy Wax and 8% Lavender Fragrance — The Candle Tunnels for Two Burns but Eventually Catches Up; Should I Change the Wick?
- I’m Using an 8 cm Jar with Soy Wax and 8% Vanilla Fragrance — The Candle Tunnels Initially but Reaches a Full Melt Pool on the Third Burn; Should I Actually Increase the Wick?
- My Lavender, Rose and Bergamot Candles Work with One Wick but Vanilla, Coffee and Oud Need Another — Can I Standardise Wick Sizes by Fragrance Behaviour?
- I Have Five Jar Diameters and 20 Fragrances — Do I Really Need 100 Separate Wick Formulations or Can I Intelligently Group Similar Candle Systems for Initial Testing?
- I Use the Same 8 cm Jar Across My Collection — How Much Inventory Complexity Can I Eliminate by Standardising the Container Before Optimising Wicks?
- I’m Choosing a Wick for a 7 cm Soy Candle — How Many Adjacent Wick Sizes Should I Test Before Selecting One for Commercial Production?
- I Want to Switch from 8% to 10% Fragrance Load Across My Collection — Do All My Previously Approved Wick Combinations Need to Be Retested?
Customer reviews: The six reviews at the top of this page are genuine, published Judge.me reviews left by CSI customers on the product pages named on each card — Dark Vanilla Fragrance, Eco Candle Wicks, Lavender Fragrance Oil, Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 (Flakes Form) For Container Candles. They are general product reviews, not assessments of the wick advice on this page. Names, star ratings, dates and products are as recorded by Judge.me and wording is unedited. "Verified buyer" appears only on reviews Judge.me recorded as verified — Priyanka Purohit, Anonymous, Akansha, Monika Deep, Subhankar Roy, Jaya Sawlani. Reviews below five stars are included as published, not filtered out.
Figures verified 29 September 2026, CSI live pricing: Eco Candle Wicks Thick (C2) 10 ₹94.40, 20 ₹188.80, 50 ₹472.00, 100 ₹944.00, 500 ₹4,720.00, 1,000 ₹9,440.00; Thin (C1) 20 ₹118.00 (10-pack out of stock); Cotton Braided Wicks Ready Made 10 ₹120.00, 50 ₹600.00, 100 ₹1,200.00; Dark Vanilla Fragrance 15 g ₹130.00, 50 g ₹410.00, 100 g ₹790.00, 500 g ₹3,840.00, 1 kg ₹7,646.00; Lavender Fragrance Oil 15 g ₹105.02, 50 g ₹270.00, 100 g ₹540.00, 500 g ₹2,620.00, 1 kg ₹5,221.00; 500 g prices for the other oils: British Rose ₹1,593.00, Citrus Lemon ₹1,420.00, Eucalyptus Spearmint ₹1,652.00, Bergamot Amber ₹2,718.00, Blue Ocean ₹2,478.00, Fresh Strawberries ₹1,770.00, Apple Cinnamon ₹2,371.80, Roasted Coffee ₹1,890.00, Woody Oud ₹2,265.60, Vanilla Bean ₹3,840.00; Luxury Soy Wax CSI 464 10 kg ₹5,074.00. Every size named is in stock on 29 September 2026 unless flagged. Per unit = price ÷ wicks or grams, two decimals.
Non-price figures: diameters are internal as the question states; pool area = π r² on the inside radius. Load is a percentage of total candle weight (225 g at 8% = 18 g oil + 207 g wax; 200 g = 16 g + 184 g). The 200 g and 225 g fills, the twelve-oil records, groups, margins, representatives and scope bands are worked examples or judgement. CSI 464 up to 10%; oil-page loads as quoted. First-burn time (about one hour per 2.5 cm), depth (about 0.5–1 cm) and flame ranges are commonly cited rules of thumb. Costs exclude jars, labour, freight, packaging and GST. Diwali 8 November 2026 is a calendar fact.